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  • Boulder News Frenzy Archive #002

    ISSUE 002 - Released on August 24th, 1997

    The publishers of this newsletter take no responsibility for the use of
    any information printed and do not encourage others to bother the BNF.
    This is intended to document the events on the BNF only, nothing more.
    http://www.bouldernews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?Ramsey

    If you don’t know what’s going on, go read Boulder News Frenzy #1 cause we’re
    not about to explain it again. Alot of things have heated up since the last
    issue beginning with the URL to the Ramsey Forum being posted on PLA’s main
    homepage causing a million little PLA wannabe’s to go over there and start
    trouble. This issue is more or less where the posts left off in the previous
    issue.

    
                       --------------------------------------------------------
                       Is JuggyButt, Tannest?
                       Return to the Ramsey forum index page
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                       Posted by: 31373
                       E-mail: spt@gone.com
                       Location: santa clara
                       Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997
    
                       My guess is yes.
    
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                       Posted by: Who cares?
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997
    
                       She expressed her opinion in a civilized manner WITHOUT
                       creating 10,000 posts,
                       so I don't care if she's Zsa Zsa Gabor. Leave well
                       enough alone!
    
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                       Posted by: AGREED!
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997
    
                       31373,
    
                       You have made your point, as did JuggyButt. Please take
                       your personal attacks elsewhere, we have had quite
                       enough.
    
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                       Posted by: Peacemaker
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997
    
                       Thanks for the solidarity. That's the spirit!
    
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                       Posted by: juggy
                       E-mail: juggy
                       Location: juggy
                       Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997
    
                       Why can't you believe that there is more that one
                       person on the face of the earth that is repulsed by
                       some of the posts and posters in this forum?
    
                       A better question....
                       If you care so much about JBR (and if you're really
                       31373 I already know that you don't), why are you so
                       concerned with who is who here? If you're like most of
                       these people, (and I will admit that even the freaks
                       care about JBR to SOME extent), it would be irrelavant
                       to you if there were 40 or only one of us. Make your
                       concerns worthwhile.
    
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                       Posted by: GSH
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997
    
                       Ditto, Juggy.....Now, if you were Elvis, I might
                       care...but..Elvis has left the Forum....
    
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                       Posted by: To juggy
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997
    
                       "If you care so much about JBR (and if you're really
                       31373 I already know that you don't), why
                       are you so concerned with who is who here?"
    
                       Why are YOU so concerend about who is here 'juggy'?
    
                       Why are you so concerened about our "obsessions"?
    
                       Why do we bother you so much JUGS?
    
                       If you and your "friends" are so repulsed then why are
                       you still here? LOL, admit it Buttman. YOU ARE ONE OF
                       US.
    
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                       Posted by: Dogbert
                       E-mail: Rememberjugasswasdecapitated.com
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Mystery. Good post, but your wasting your time on
                       AssLips or whatever hat he/she uses. Rectal Ass
                       is incapable of rational dialog. Old Bumper Butt
                       just wants to be contradictory so she'll stand
                       on on the Forum.
    
                       Hey RumpRustler,...park it!
    
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                       What's BUENO v1.0?
                       Return to the Ramsey forum index page
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                       Posted by: Random APB
                       E-mail: randomapb@hotmail.com
                       Location: hell
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       What's BUENO v1.0? I can't seem to download it from the
                       PLA frontpage....
    
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                       Posted by: DethKnight
                       E-mail: Dk@nowhere.com
                       Location: Somewhere..
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       It's a mIRC script, and it basically just adds a few
                       new features to mIRC, if you dont have mIRC and want
                       it, you can get it at http://www.mirc.co.uk/
    
                       Hope this helps
                       - DethKnight -
    
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                       Posted by: Funny
                       E-mail:
                       Location: o
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       It's like PLA is getting all these hits and people are
                       downloading their programs because of all this. I
                       wonder if they enjoyed the exposure. Their sites says
                       they've recieved over 12,000 hits. Is this possible?
    
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                       Posted by: RedDog
                       E-mail:
                       Location: USA
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Are there any good female "hackers" or "hackarinas"
                       around or are the majority male?
    
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                       Posted by: Do you know?
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Is the PLA rip-off version of the BNF front page still
                       up and operating at some site? OR, have they finally
                       been shut down?
    
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                       Posted by: unf
                       E-mail: unfunf
                       Location: unfyland
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       hehehhe i thought you guys were gonna stop the pla
                       discusion
    
                       cant get them out of your minds can you
    
                       all i can say is good job, pla!
    
                       the boulder news ramsey forum will never get over you
    
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                       Posted by: Can they do that??
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Saw they ripped it off on here one night, wondered
                       about the legal aspects. Anybody know?. They are still
                       around here. The BoulderNews should have people
                       register names and e-mail address.
    
                       --------------------------------------------------------
    
                       Posted by: About Female Hackers
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       You can't have forgotten Tannest. She gets paid to
                       hack!
    
                       --------------------------------------------------------
    
                       Posted by: The FBI
                       E-mail: fbi@fbi.gov
                       Location: i'm not at liberty to say.
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       THE PLA ROCKS YOUR FRO.
    
                       --------------------------------------------------------
                       Update from 31373 on RBCP and PAL THUGS
                       Return to the Ramsey forum index page
    
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                       Posted by: 31373
                       E-mail: leet@means.ur.anidiot
                       Location: Celina, Ohio (soon)
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       I have not posted here since yesterday when I said I
                       would wait and see what the PAL was going to do. The
                       PAL thugs have posted under my name several times, but
                       I'm sure after reading their web page, everyone knows
                       the truth now.
    
                       Since they have not stopped their harrassment, I felt I
                       should let everyone know the status of the information
                       finding mission on RBCP. Details are starting to emerge
                       about this person. He is an adult, 25 years old, who
                       spent almost all of his time from 1991 until last year,
                       traveling around the country with no money, scamming
                       Macdonalds for free cheeseburgers. He had no PC and no
                       access to a PC for all those years. He met someone that
                       was into hacking/phreaking who had just started a
                       hacking group called Phone Losers of America (catchy
                       name, huh). RBCP latched on to this person and learned
                       a few phreaking tricks from him, and discovered the
                       world of BBSes. RBCP has had a PC for 2 years, and now
                       thinks he is Kevin Mitnick. In fact, he mentions his
                       admiration for Kevin in almost everything he writes. He
                       is clearly a Mitnick wannabe. Kevin was a hacker who
                       mainly played with the phone system in California
                       before being arrested several times and is now doing
                       hard time in prison. RBCP has even taken on the
                       personality of Mitnick. Kevin was always a jerk. He
                       wanted to be elite, but just never could quite hack it.
                       (pun) Kevin has always been the laughing boy of the
                       hacker world because of his attitude. You couldn't even
                       talk to the boy without wanting to slap him because of
                       his smartass attitude. That's why even his hacker
                       friends couldn't stand him and turned him in several
                       times.
    
                       So RBCP found his mission in life. To be like Kevin. So
                       he learned to phreak and trade at&t and sprint codes.
                       He even took on the smartass attitude, and that's
                       exactly why some of his friends are giving out
                       information about him now. They can't stand him any
                       more than we can. RBCP has dedicated his life to this
                       misson of hacking/phreaking/online harrassment, to the
                       point that his family suffers for it. He lives in a run
                       down place in the low rent district. It is furnished
                       with junk and throwaway crap. Check the pictures on his
                       page: http://www.bright.net/~bac - check the way his
                       daughter is dressed. Check the 1980's model 286 PC
                       clone probably upgraded to pentium motherboard, old
                       yellow keyboard, ratty table and chair, 1960's model
                       hoover upright vacuum, and the decorating from Goodwill
                       store. He is fairly intelligent, and could have a
                       decent job, but he works in convienience stores and
                       jumps from job to job because of his hacker lifestyle
                       which he says is "Way Cool". This isn't news to some of
                       us since we've read most of what RBCP has written, and
                       he has written almost everything he has ever done on a
                       PC or phone in his online zine. The PAL web site has
                       moved 7 times to new ISP's and now resides on
                       kracked.com because they used up all the decent
                       providers long ago.
    
                       Thanks to those kind BNF people who made phone calls.
                       They did help, and will continue to help as more people
                       complain. RBCP says that bright.net loves him because
                       of the new accounts he brings them, and says he has
                       5000 hits a day on his bright.net web page. 5000 people
                       visit that page to look the pictures of him, colleen,
                       and their child (yeah right!). That's about all there
                       is to see there besides his diary. It's an interesting
                       read, and the guy has some talent as a writer. Too bad
                       he can't use it to better himself and his family
                       instead of hurting people.
                       http://www.bright.net/~bac/travels.htm
    
                       One last statement, then I'm going back to my regular
                       hat again. I firmly believe in freedom of information.
                       I have no problem with groups like PAL giving out
                       information on the phone company. They can hack and
                       phreak till the cows come home and it doesn't bother
                       me. I played with it myself back in my BBS days. I'm
                       from a different generation, when Bill Gates was
                       whining about people copying his BASIC code for the
                       Altair computer. My generation of hackers were friendly
                       helpful people who only hacked corporations and messed
                       with the phone company. RBCP's generation of hackers
                       are malicious, hurtful bullies who take pride in
                       terrorizing people. They actually bragged about making
                       a lady cry on IRC. That's what is fun to them.
    
                       We have done everything we can to fight them. We have
                       complained to their ISP's. We completely trashed their
                       discussion forum - they can't even post to it anymore.
                       This has made them plenty mad, as you can tell by
                       RBCP's posts here in the last 2 days. He is using my
                       handle, posting propoganda, but everyone knows his BS
                       now. If you read his web page, and the PAL page, they
                       all become very predictable. They have been through
                       this before. In fact, they have so many people after
                       them that they are paranoid and can't tell who is
                       kicking their asses and who isn't. It could be any
                       number of people who they have terrorized for the past
                       2 years.
    
                       They are very angry with me because I TELL THE TRUTH.
                       And I back it up with PROOF.
    
                       RBCP is going down, no matter what. He could appologize
                       to everyone personally, and start being a great guy,
                       but that doesn't change the laws he broke, the good
                       people he terrorized, and innocent people he continues
                       to attack with his forumterror page.
    
                       I don't want any more trouble here, but I can't be
                       silent when they post garbage under my handle. Please
                       continue to complain to bright.net and kracked.com,
                       until they stop this crap here, and on IRC.
    
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                       Posted by: LOL
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       The funniest thing is that you, Linda, take his page
                       for the gospel. You have to realize, he's appealing to
                       his followers on his pages. My guess is 50% of the page
                       is pure fabrication.
    
                       Next to The Jerky Boys, rbcp is the most recognizable
                       and reknowned prank phone caller in the United States.
                       He has chapter groups in almost all 50 states. His T
                       shirts, cassete tapes, and soon to be CDs are a
                       successful product.
    
                       You will not stop him.
    
                       --------------------------------------------------------
    
                       Posted by: Jason Neumeier
                       E-mail: neumeier@bright.net
                       Location: Bright Net Internet Services
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       We are not going to take this matter as serious until
                       we see some logs and proof. Please leave us alone.
                       Jason Neumeier
                       Owner, Bright Net Internet Services
    
            [Obviously the Jason Neumeier is fake but 31373 doesn't realize
             this as you'll see a few posts down. Also, somewhere along the
             line, they started referring to the PLA as "PAL." Nobody knows
             if it started out as confusion or just something to irritate
             the PLA but the name stuck. ]
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: Compare and Know
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
    
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Hey 31373…
    
                       It’s real obvious you are also Mr. X so cut the crap!
    
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                       Posted by: Oscar Mayer Wiener
                       E-mail: frank@hotdog.com
                       Location: Oscar Mayer Food Services
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       We will no longer provide hot dogs to Patsy Ramsey.
    
                       Please leave us alone.
                       Oscar Mayer Wiener
                       Owner, Oscar Mayer Food Services
    
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                       Posted by: 31373
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Jesus Jason, what more proof do you need? Look at his
                       WEB PAGE ON YOUR SERVER! http:/www.bright.net/~bac –
                       click on his picture, and then click on CONNECT TO MY
                       COMPUTER. That page is illegal. It contains the names,
                       addresses, phone numbers, http links, to innocent
                       people. If you need any more proof, look at his PAL
                       page on http://pla.kracked.com — read issue 45 of the
                       PAL zine under the heading: Boulder Forum Fun.
    
                       If you need any more proof, my attorney will provide it
                       when he serves you.
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: 31373
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       If RBCP is a famous phone pranker like the Jerky Boys,
                       then why is he wasting his time and ours here
                       terrorizing the BNF??? I guess the prank business is
                       kinda slow right now, huh?
    
                       Is he going to sell a tape of his BNF terrorist
                       attacks? How about a “We made a lady cry on BNF” Tee
                       shirt?????
    
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                       Posted by: A question
                       E-mail: Only mature adults can have it
                       Location: Kansas City, MO
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       WHO CARES?
    
                       You are now being as immature as they were. Most of the
                       people in this discussion group are growing very tired
                       of you, 31373. When you agreed to the Terms of Usage
                       for this message board, you agreed that you would not
                       post peoples personal information. Now you seem as
                       though you think these terms of useage don’t apply to
                       you, because you are here to save all the innocent
                       people from the PAL. From the civilized posts I’ve read
                       from a PAL member on another string, I’ve heard that
                       you are just here to mess with the PAL, not to help
                       make the JonBenet forum any better. I normally wouldn’t
                       believe that but a few things come to mind such as –
                       I’ve never seen you post anything but crap about the
                       PAL. PLEASE TAKE THIS IMMATURE GARBAGE TALK ELSEWHERE!
                       You can have your fun with the PAL, but why are you
                       ruining our boards to do it? We are here to discuss
                       JonBenet. If you –and this goes for you too, PAL– are
                       not here to talk about something even barely associated
                       with JonBenet, get the hell out. Your little campaign
                       to rid the world of the PAL is not appropriate for this
                       forum. We are as tired of you as we are the PAL, 31373.
    
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                       Posted by: just a thought
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Cease and desist: This is all one person continuing
                       this charade. Please ignore any more posts on this
                       subject and stick to the topic of this forum.
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: 31373
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       I will listen to your whining and lies under everyone
                       else’s handles as long as you keep it in ONE thread.
                       It’s a free country, you can say what you want, but
                       when you flood the whole forum with RBCP’s famous
                       gerbil posts, and posts about joe mullin’s weenie,
                       that’s not “Way Cool”.
    
                       Jason from bright.net - If you do not force RBCP to
                       remove his forumterror page at: http://205.212.158.140/
                       you WILL be sued. Once I own bright.net, I’ll change
                       the name to 31373.com.
    
                       Stay right by the phone, I’m calling you right now.
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: Jason Neumeier
                       E-mail: neumeier@bright.net
                       Location: Bright Net Internet Services
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       To: 31337,
                       I looked at the page in question, and I could not
                       connect to his computer. I fear attorneys, they make me
                       hard.
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: That One Person
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Is in Toronto Canada
    
                       Believe it or not. It’s up to you, it’s easier to blame
                       it all on a group of kids than to admit it’s one of
                       your cronies.
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: Jason Neumeier
                       E-mail: neumeier@bright.net
                       Location: Bright Net Internet Services
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       OOH, go ahead and sue us.. You will loose.. We are as
                       big as your mother, and then some.
                       If you have a dog, i hope it dies a horrible death.
                       Now Have A Nice Day..
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: Linda(31373)
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       You are such an imbecile.
    
                       You are making a fool of yourself at this point.
                       Everyone knows you are creating all this yourself, you
                       are a Drama Queen! Isn’t that close to a VooDoo Queen?
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: take it somewhere else, kids
                       E-mail: Just an opinion
                       Location: although I’m tired of discussing the PAL
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       I really think whoever said that this is all the same
                       person doing this is right. We come to this forum
                       because we want to “play detective”, maybe find a new
                       clue or discover a revealing post. 31373 seems to be
                       playing his detective drama out on another subject now
                       : The organization known as the PAL. I’ve never
                       bothered visiting their page, and I haven’t called
                       anyones domain to get their private information,
                       because when I want to do some detective work, I’m not
                       going to bother learning about a bunch of teenagers in
                       Ohio or wherever they really are from. My efforts are
                       going into the JonBenet investigation, and if there are
                       those of you who are more concerned about PAL than
                       JonBenet, can’t you PLEASE make your own page to list
                       your thoughts and comments on the PAL? Those of us who
                       are interested in all the effort you’ve put into this
                       can go there if that’s what we would like to do, and we
                       can keep this forum’s topic about that poor sweetie
                       JonBenet.
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: 31373
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Surprize! That wasn’t Jason from bright.net ^^^.
    
                       He has never heard of the Boulder News Forum, but he
                       HAS heard of Alex Carbon - bac@bright.net
    
                       Good try though! You should quit posting under other
                       people’s names. They might get upset.
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: To: 31373
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Duh. You’re the only one who believed it.
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: Yo Momma
                       E-mail: yo@momma.com
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Just so you know, his name isnt Alex Carbon..
                       YER WRONG!
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: 31373
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Admins at bright.net are requesting logs of the PLA
                       harrassment and any problems caused by RBCP and his
                       terrorist group.
    
                       Please send any archives, logs, any evidence of
                       harrassment you have to:
    
                       abuse@bright.net
    
                       Once again, for those BNF people who don’t realise what
                       is going on here, go look at the PLA ZINE issue 45
                       where the PLA describes their attack on the Boulder
                       News Forum, and why it started. It started in April,
                       and I had nothing to do with it. I had never even heard
                       of the PLA or RBCP until 2 weeks ago. Keep in mind that
                       there are several groups from the internet trying to
    
                       stop this group from terrorizing them, not just me.
    
                       http://pla.kracked.com
    
                       Click on the icon on the bottom row that is a pic of a
                       newspaper and says: READ on it. Then click on READ 045,
                       and scroll down to the heading that says: RAMSEY FORUM
                       FUN - LOGIC BOX. He mentions the people who started
                       trashing the BNF: logic box, RBCP, Colleen Card (rbcp’s
                       wife), and Tannest. I’m sure the old regulars here
                       remember Tannest.
    
                       Read it for yourself, and send those logs to bright.net
    
                       They WILL come after you and your family too if they
                       find out who you are. That’s what they do. Trace people
                       from the internet and make harrassing phone calls to
                       them and their children. Then they sell the recordings
                       of the conversations to their wannabe followers. They
                       sell tapes and tee shirts at conventions like DEFCON
                       and HOHOCON. Look for the PLA table.
    
                       I can’t wait for defcon 6. We will finally get to talk
                       about this face to face.
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: To 31373
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Check into a Mental facility immediately.
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: 31374
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       31373 keep up the good work. PAL are scum.
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: BloodyMouth
                       E-mail: spit@mirrors
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       31373, now that you’ve made the promise you’d better
                       haul your ass out to Defcon VI and you’d better show
                       your face. We’ll see just how many miliseconds it takes
                       to make *you* cry too hahaha. Unless you want to meet
                       earlier, which I have no objections to. Bring it on,
                       and when you send in those logs of this harrassment,
                       I’ll send in my logs of you telling #intellects that
                       you’ve been getting your son stoned since he was 10. No
                       joke. It’s a fact pot kills brain cells, and it’s
                       obvious 2/3 of yours are already gone, but must you
                       make idiots out of your entire family?
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: IP Freely
                       E-mail: moo@plarulez.net
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       To Bloodymouth:
                       bwahahaaha. that was low. very low..
                       to 31373:
                       i hope your dog dies, and i hope you go straight to
                       hell
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: Dyslexics ‘R’ Us
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Hello, is everyone that confused? It is P-L-A
    
                       NOT P-A-L. You want them to have more reason to
                       disrespect the posters here?
    
                       ——————————————————–
    
                       Posted by: PLA Grand Wizard
                       E-mail:
                       Location: donut step
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       DA PLA RULEZ, DO NUT MESS WITH THE PLA. YOU DISLEXIC
                       JERK OFF.
    
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                       31373 Hit The Road!
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                       Posted by: BNF Forum
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       You are destroying us. Stop, leave, take a hike.
    
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                       Posted by: Old Timer
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Please no more talk about the teenagers or any law
                       suits, etc…
    
                       Today is JonBenet’s day.
    
            [JonBenet Day? That was actually in reference to the autopsy
             reports of JonBenet being released. Everyone of the forum
             regulars called it JonBenet day. Talk about sick fucking
             people. They tend to call ~every~ day JBR day.  This day in
             particular, they all jumped on the bandwagon.]
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                       Posted by: Observer
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       31373, it would be a completely different story if you
                       had run off the PLA from the forum and then left it at
                       that.
    
                       But now it is your God-given mission in life to run
                       them off the face of the earth. And you want to start
                       your mission here. By creating 500 threads about the
                       PLA (who we don’t care about), you are doing exactly
                       what we despise them for.
    
                       I realize that some of them have stolen your hat
                       sometimes, but you do alot of the posting. We are sick
                       of hearing about the PLA, so please take your spamming
                       war to their forum where it is welcome.
    
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                       Posted by: GlueGirl
                       E-mail: gluegirl@hotmail.com
                       Location: Toronto, Ontario Canada
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       If 31373 hadn’t attempted to retaliate against us so
                       childishly, you can sure bet that this wouldn’t have
                       gotten as out of hand as it had. As soon as 31373 shuts
                       her “I think I’m a private investigator” typing fingers
                       up, I guarantee that the only posts I will be making
                       here will be about nutty ol’ Jameson. He was really the
                       only one I came here to bother, as he’s\she’s (depends
                       who’s holding the snakes) obviously a nutcase. I’d like
                       to apologize to all the other forum posters (with the
                       exception of 31373, cuz she matches his insanity quite
                       nicely) for screwing around with your boards. My
                       apology is in no way derived from 31373’s
                       “investigation” of RBCP; she had nothing to do with
                       anything except getting more PLA’ers to come post here.
                       I had a very nice chat with a couple of ladies from
                       this forum last night, and they were very honest,
                       inspiring and thoughtful individuals. It brought to
                       light for me that the majority of you are only here to
                       gain knowledge and express opinions. It’s a pity that
                       you all had to suffer for their idiocity, but such is
                       life.
    
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                       Posted by: Dogbert
                       E-mail: packingagluegunforprotection
                       Location: Labia, Montana
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Hey Glue Squirrel,…get bent! We don’t need
                       you, we don’t want you!
    
                       Go bother your psychotherapist!
    
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                       Posted by: THIS IS A FORUM FOR JONBENET
                       E-mail: YOU’RE TRYING TO TURN IT INTO A PLA ATTACK
                       CENTER
                       Location: KNOCK IT OFF!
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       I’m tired of the PLA posts as most of us who have
                       discussed this are. I had a long talk with one of the
                       regular forum posters last night, and we agree that
                       people like 31373 are just making it worse for us here.
                       I’m sure a lot of you agree. If he could just knock it
                       off, they wouldn’t have anything to respond to here
                       anymore would they? Grow up. If you’re really the adult
                       you claim to be, show them how adults handle situations
                       like this. IGNORE THEM! They are being very quiet, but
                       I doubt that will last long when you keep provoking
                       them! Just shut up and play this stupid game somewhere
                       else.
    
            [This was actually GlueGirl, as quite a few of the never-before
             heard of names are.  Her intention seemed to have worked
             wonderfully.  All over the boards that day were posts telling
             31373 to shut the hell up and accusing her of keeping the PLA
             interest.  These people slurp down the bait faster than
             you can get it on the hook.]
    
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                       Posted by: Observer
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Sir or ma’am, no flame intended, but we just posted
                       this same message to 31373 a couple of threads below.
    
                       Continously making threads like these is only adding to
                       the problem. One thread is more than enough. Now, let’s
                       follow your advice and ignore them.
    
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                       Posted by: Kelly
                       E-mail: Sorry
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Sorry, it wasn’t there when I started making the post
    
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                       Posted by: Sir Slippery
                       E-mail: smellyd@geocities.com
                       Location: New York City
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Hail PLA!!
    
                       …Gotta luv it
    
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                       Posted by: Teacher
                       E-mail: ive@had.enough
                       Location: school
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Look, if you don’t like what 31373 is doing, then don’t
                       read these threads. Stay in the Jonbenet threads and
                       SHUT UP!!!
    
                       Let them get rid of these PLA jerks for us and for
                       everyone else they harrass. You are only helping them
                       by complaining about 31373. 31373 is NOT the one who
                       started this.
    
                       Of course, the complaints are from the PLA crowd anyway
                       so I am wasting my time.
    
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                       Posted by: 31373
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       I am on the phone now with my Attornies. They say the
                       chances of you getting 15+ years are great.
    
                       Take the page down. Now.
    
             [This is good. The PLA is going to spend 15 years in jail for
              spamming a forum - a forum that at the time was being spammed
              twice as bad by 31373's anti-PLA posts.  If you look at the threads
              from the past 8 months, you'll see they've been threatening each
              other with silly reprimands for offenses such as stealing each
              others 'hats'.   Never heard the 'hat' lingo until I got here, maybe
              I'm just way out of it.]
    
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                       Posted by: 31373
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       That is 15+ yr’s strapped down to my bed being my male
                       slave.
    
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                       Posted by: BloodyMouth
    
                       E-mail: spits@mirrors
                       Location: uP
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       uhm, and exactly who is going to prosecute this? In
                       what court, bigbadvoodoo? A CANADIAN COURT? Slander is
                       a CIVIL violation, BTW. How much money do you think
                       you’ll get? Hahaha You’re a riot. You are your own pot
                       smoking brain cell-less attorney. And you’re a god
                       damned joke.
    
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                       Posted by: THE PAGE STAYS UP BITCH!!!!!!!
                       E-mail: NONE SHOWING
                       Location: KILLSVILLE
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       COME VISIT ME AND LET ME UNLOAD MY
    
                       AUTOMATIC
                       LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE
                       FUNERAL CARS
    
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                       Posted by: Curious
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       That is a good question. How is a person in Tulsa going
                       to make a person in Canada go to jail for a tort? If
                       that is what your attorney told you, fire him.
    
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                       Posted by: Eric
                       E-mail:
                       Location: Ohio
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       You know, people have been trying to ruin the PLA for
                       about 3 years now and it’s always been a riot. Besides
                       the fact that PLA was never an organization or group of
                       any kind - it was just an electronic magazine, written
                       for fun and it was put to an end by myself only a few
                       months ago because I had better things to do.
    
                       I’m waiting for your attorneys & police & FBI to come
                       get me. I’ll probably be waiting for a long time. By
                       the way, I’m going to fix my web board today if I get a
                       chance, so come over a post a few lines about what new
                       info you’ve found on me. (ie, stuff you’ve found on my
                       page)
    
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                       THE PLA 0WNZ YOU
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                       Posted by: RedBoxChickenChowder
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       THE PLA OWNS YOU
    
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                       Posted by: Dogbert
                       E-mail: Wonderinghowyourheadgotsofarupyourass.com
                       Location: Back Seat of an Arkansas State Troopers Car
                       with Hillary
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Nice spelling! Will you be doing the 3rd Grade
                       over again this year or just lapsing into
                       unconsciousness?
    
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                       Posted by: !!
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       It spells “owns” as “ownz” so you think it’s written by
                       a gangsta, Dogbert. Were you fooled?
    
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                       Posted by: RedboxChiliChowder
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Uh, I’ll be taught by your mother.
    
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                       Posted by: Emma Roid
                       E-mail:
                       Location: SF
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       So ya want to own me huh? I promise to be a real pain
                       in your arse. It will be a battle you’ll have to get
                       Arthur Itis’ permission first.
    
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                       Posted by: Arthur Itis
                       E-mail:
                       Location: SF
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Take her, Emma Roid is a real pain in my arse! I hope
                       she will be as big a pain to you.
    
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                       The little whore had it comming!
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                       Posted by: 0wn3r
                       E-mail: owner@whirled.peas.com
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       I say the little whore had it comming! Look at her old
                       videos, she was a SLUT! Those tight clothers and
                       dresses, she looked like a 2 dolla ho! Her mom turned
                       her out, I know this .. I used to turn out da hoeZ as
                       well, my gurls walked da streets wit her. Anyway, one
                       day one of my bitchez was like “I only got $400″ and I
                       smack her and say “damnit how you expect me to git new
                       rims for my el dorado if you can only bring me $400
                       every 3 hours?” so she starts to cry and shes like “I
                       need my fix” so I smack her again and yell “bitch j00
                       give me lip again and I pull my pimp stick” so shes
                       like, “phine I will work harder” then this little gurl
                       (JB) walks buy struting her shit with her mom. Damn,
                       that gurl may be like, 5 or whatever but she can make
                       some mad cash y0! anyway, you should feal sorry for the
                       hard working high class street hustlers such as myself
                       that are forced to put up with this shit day in and day
                       out!
    
            [Funny, nobody replied to that one...yet, GlueGirl did try to get
             whomever posted that to engage in a lengthy discussion
             regarding El Dorados.  Apparently, he wasn't interested.]
    
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                       The PLA Website
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                       Posted by: Webmaster
                       E-mail: webmaster@kracked.com
                       Location: Tennessee
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Ok, I am the webmaster (site owner) for PLA…
    
                       I can understand the pleas for these people to quit
                       posting on your webboard, but I don’t see where
                       prosecution is going to help the situation, bring legal
                       action against what? a web site that has information
                       which can be found any where else on the net… This
                       will not hold up in any court, anywhere….
    
                       I can not control who posts on your webboard, but I
                       promise to keep the links to your webboard off PLA’s
                       site.
    
                       Kracked Management.
    
            [Yes, that was really posted by Kracked Management who was/is the
             host of the PLA site. Because of all the spam on the BNF, alot of
             the BNF regulars decided to retaliate by going over to the PLA
             site and spamming the hell out of their board which overloaded
             the board's capacity and crashed it several times.  Not to mention
             calling Kracked and whining about the page content.
    
             Rather than disable the posting option or leaving the board
             crashed, RBCP altered the html on PLA's web board, redirecting
             the CGI script over to the Ramsey board. This meant that when
             someone posted spam on the PLA board, it didn't post to the
             PLA board - it posted to the Ramsey board. ]
    
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                       Posted by: Dogbert
                       E-mail: drinkmyspittlewebboy.com
                       Location: A Nightmare Playing At A Synapse Near You
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Gee, what a swell guy you turned out to be.
                       Hey, as an extra added bonus, we’d really appreciate it
                       if you would squeeze your pustulated zit of a head all
                       over your monitor.
    
                       You are hungry, aren’t you? Sure you are!
                       Good boy, lick it up!
    
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                       Posted by: Dianne E.
                       E-mail: diannee@pacbell.net
                       Location: 5:30PM pdt
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       Kracked Management, thank you for your post and
                       information about removing the forum from your web
                       site.
    
                       We all have approaches to dealing with things that in
                       the heat of the moment look more exciting or
                       interesting than they really are, so it is good to see
                       your post, which seems to be heading us in the
                       direction of creating positive energy on both groups
                       parts.
    
                       I personally have known of your group for awhile now
                       and must say that some of the funniest posts here have
                       come from the “original group at the PLA”. I am only
                       guessing(as I don’t have magic glass as cannot see
                       through my screen like some others here seem to be able
                       to do:), but I thought that it was one of your people
                       who wrote about hijacking telephone trucks and that
                       post was funny, entertaining and highly creative.
                       (think this post was end of February)
    
                       I found a site if you are not aware of it that you
                       might enjoy:
    
                       Computer Myths Web Site:
                       http://kumite.com/myths/
    
                       Nice chatting with you.
                       Peace
                       Dianne
    
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                       Posted by: Logic Box
                       E-mail: it’s not hard to find if you really look
                       Location: 408
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       You people are all fruity, stop trying to threaten RBCP
                       with legal action, it’s not like he’s going to go to
                       federal prison all for a few stupid WWW board posts.
                       And, Kracked.com has nothing to do with PLA, other than
                       the webspace they provide. It’s not even a group. The
                       “PLA” that you people know consists of
                       RedBoxChiliPepper, myself, and a few people off IRC
                       (actually, I haven’t even posted here for about 2
                       months). Plus, there’s countless other people who are
                       probably now spamming your board thanks to all the
                       publicity it’s received from us. So we aren’t
                       completely to blame for all this. Now realize the fact
                       that it’s more than just one or two people doing it,
                       and deal with it.
    
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                       Posted by: 0wn3r
                       E-mail:
                       Location: ma phat ass mofuckin krib bitch!
                       Posted on: Thursday August 14, 1997
    
                       y0y0y0y0y what up fooz? they took his links off but
                       fear not, 0wn3r livez on mofoz! (btw, I’m not black)
                       newayz since dey took down the link i guess itz up to
                       m3 to spam dis mofo more! y0!
    
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                       I THINK I KNOW WHO DID IT!!!
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                       Posted by: CG HOMEY ROY, WHO YOU DOWN WITH???
                       E-mail: bigballz@coolmail.com
                       Location: Somewhere over the rainbow ;.;.;.
                       Posted on: Wednesday August 13, 1997
    
                       I think LogicBox did it with the candle stick in the
                       bedroom….
    
                       Just a guess……
    
                       (NOTE: I have no clue who really did it, i just like to
                       guess, ya know???)
    
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                       Posted by: To the stupid little punk who made this
                       thread.
                       E-mail: from
                       Location: a serious person
                       Posted on: Thursday August 14, 1997
    
                       Oh, you’re so amusing. I’m sorry you were only able to
                       post you little thread one time rather than two or
                       three hundred the way you usually do. It must be
                       awfully frustrating for you. Try not to go out and kill
                       someone, O.K.?
    
             [By this time, the spam was so out of hand that the Boulder Forum's
              web master decided to try another security "feature" which was to
              make it so you could only start one new thread per hour. This
              actually worked out fairly well and cut down on alot of 31373's
              spam. The PLA then seemed to concentrate on spamming the
              actual threads already started (no limit on those). ]
    
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                       Posted by: CG HOMEY ROY, WHO YOU DOWN WITH???
                       E-mail: bigballz@coolmail.com
                       Location: Somewhere over the rainbow ;.;.;.
                       Posted on: Thursday August 14, 1997
    
                       Look, it’s tough being a fat ugly gay teenager these
                       days with no friends and my only date being my right
                       hand. Lay off ok?
    
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                       Posted by: gigi
                       E-mail:
                       Location: iowa
                       Posted on: Thursday August 14, 1997
    
                       early on, when this first happened, I lurking
                       somewhere?read that the athorities in Boulder reassured
                       the citizens that there was NOT a killer on the loose
                       in their community. therefore, why do we continue to
                       speak at times as tho a neighbor etc. might be
    
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                       Posted by: New URL
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Thursday August 14, 1997
    
                       http://members.tripod.com/~wartally/
    
            [This URL was started by GlueGirl and turned out to be a great
             idea and as of this writing, the page still exists. It's called
             the "War Tally (not wart ally) Between the BNF & PLA" and is a daily log of
             what's going on in BNF Land. Updated nightly. Surprisingly,
             tripod.com hasn't taken this page down yet.  ('tard.  I don't know
             why you always act so god damned surprised that the page is
             still up.  I don't doubt they tried many times.  There isn't anything
             there that is in violation of Tripods Terms of Service.  That call is
             a re-enactment, I tell ya!!) ]
    
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                       I have you now, Alex
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                       Posted by: Jim Bayless
                       E-mail: jbayless@ameritech.net
                       Location: Ameritech Corporate Security
                       Posted on: Thursday August 14, 1997
    
                       There’s no stopping us now, Alex. We’re finally closing
                       in on your underground ring of PLA cronies. Give it up,
                       you can’t win.
    
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                       Posted by: Excuse me
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Thursday August 14, 1997
    
                       Sorry to intrude on your thread. I thought you were
                       talking about Alex Hunter. Honest mistake. You see,
                       this is the JonBenet forum and I thought that all the
                       discussion was about her and…oh never mind.
    
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                       Posted by: funny funny
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Thursday August 14, 1997
    
                       it’s obvious you just realized you can impersonate
                       someone else here
    
                       someone must have refueled your fossil oils
    
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                       Posted by: 0wn3r
                       E-mail:
                       Location: blahblahblah
                       Posted on: Thursday August 14, 1997
    
                       I’m getting tired of the pimp talk … anywaym did you
                       just now relieze you don’t have to post your REAL info
                       on this forum? Jim Bayless has no intrest in RBCP or
                       the ongoings of the PLA .. give up lamer. If your going
                       to make off topic post make them something the lamers
                       here will want to respond to. This creates HUGE threads
                       that last a long time. w3rd! y0! I’m swimmin in wimmin!
    
           [Editor briefly chuckles at the 'swimmin in wimmin' comment.]  
    
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                       31373!!!! 31373!!! 31373!!! 31373!!!
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                       Posted by: ?
                       E-mail: ?
                       Location: Texas… cactus?
                       Posted on: Thursday August 14, 1997
    
                       31373: http://members.tripod.com/~wartally/ Have you
                       visited that page yet??? 31373 will you talk to me???
    
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                       Posted by: right on~~~~!!!!!!
                       E-mail: loved the theme song
                       Location: pla
                       Posted on: Thursday August 14, 1997
    
                       roll on motherfuckers don’t leave that bitch in heat
    
            [The following post is actually by 31373. Since everyone was
             sick of her spams, she began using different names to post
             all the late-breaking news on the PLA. ]
    
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                       Posted by: cPcTAP
                       E-mail: cpctap@2600.com
                       Location: Eddies
                       Posted on: Thursday August 14, 1997
    
                       We contacted a few old friends from cPc and TAP, and
                       nobody has ever heard of the famous RBCP and his phone
                       losers. Goldstein knows of the PAL, but says they are
                       one of the new breed of malicious punks who have ruined
                       hacking and phreaking for everyone. Hacking isn’t what
                       it used to be. Now we have these Mitnick wannabeez who
                       wouldn’t know how to build a tone generator if their
                       life depended on it. They play games and pretend to be
                       hacker-phreakers, but are really just lame actors
                       playing games and distributing outdated information.
                       Their life is on IRC now where they can convince kids
                       that they are high power hackers. Anyone with an IRC
                       script can play hacker nowdays. They wouldn’t know what
                       to do if they did happen to accidently hack root
                       somewhere. These are windoze kids. UNIX to them is
                       Linux and it runs on a Pentium. These aren’t hackers,
                       they are kids who learned how to find people on
                       WhoWhere and the Whitepages on the WWW and use it to
                       make prank phone calls. That is not hacking folks, that
                       is fun for the DriveBy generation. They talk like gang
                       bangers, but they are white kids. Hard, bold talk from
                       a 24 year old leader of 14 year old white kids.
    
                       The fight isn’t over. Your Wartally page isn’t worth
                       looking at. It mysteriously leaves out the trashing of
                       the PAL forum and the disruption of lives of the play
                       pretend hacker children and their lame attempt to get
                       revenge. 31373 says nobody from PAL has called, but
                       promises that if they don’t remove information about
                       innocent BNF posters from public web pages,
                       repercussions will be felt throughout their lives for
                       some time to come. RBCP was singled out because he is
                       an adult leader who influences children to harrass
                       people they don’t even know, just because ole RedBox
                       says to. He is being delt with as we speak.
    
                       The word is out. PAL is dogsh*t in the u.g. - They give
                       everyone a bad name. RBCP wants to be famous like
                       Kevin. He just might get some enjoyment out of what is
                       to come. He is getting ready to learn that you don’t
                       post my information on a public web page without my
                       permission. He isn’t the only person on earth who can
                       play on the phone. There were people doing it before he
                       was born.
    
                       Red boxes have been obsolete for some time now, just as
                       RBCP is about to become. Used up old information that
                       is worthless to anyone who knows what a buttset is. No
                       more warnings for RB. Just action. No more garbage
                       posts by 31373. It served it’s purpose. There will be 1
                       more post from me, and then nobody will see my posts
                       here again.
    
                       cPc
    
        [A little personal background on 31373.  She likes to pretend she's
         people that she isn't.  She does a little research on the 'profession'
         that she's going to morph into (e.g. she rented Hackers and
         Sneakers that weekend, evidently), and assumes the role, quite
         unconvincingly.]
    
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                       Posted by: ME
                       E-mail: me@me.com
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       OK…first of all….there is no cPc, its called cDc,
                       second, the cDc would not have a 2600.com account
                       because they are different organizations, third,
                       redboxes are not obsolete, yes they are a bit less
                       technical and boring but the do work, and if you say
                       they dont, learn some telco for a change….most likely
                       Goldstein has heard of the ezine, and most of all its
                       PLA not PAL……you really need some help, and a lot
                       of it, stop trying to act all big and bad with your
                       j00ed info, next youll be telling me that you were in
                       both MOD and LOD
    
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                       Posted by: jimbo
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       I’ve been reading the PLA (PAL?) issues all morning and
                       I don’t see them referencing themselves as hackers at
                       all. In fact, in one issue they seem to clear up the
                       fact that they’re NOT hackers. So who said they were
                       hackers?
    
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                       Posted by: Sideline observer
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       You are right, they aren’t hackers, just a bunch of
                       phreaks!!!!
    
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                       Posted by: To cPcTAP
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       I really hope and pray that you are real and you know
                       what you are doing. By your post it seems like you do.
                       Hopefully your next and last post will say this madness
                       is all going to come to an end. Please, it has to. It’s
                       not fair.
    
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            [Keep in mind that just 3 posts earlier, 31373 said she'd never
             post to the BNF again.  But then again, we all know she's about
             the biggest liar on the face of the earth.  Her escapades on
             different IRC servers as Museum curators, psychologists, etc show
             her true nature.]
    
                       Posted by: 31373
                       E-mail:
                       Location: uP
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       Oh please! The Legion of Doom was the first generation
                       of hackers (phreakers technically) that were mostly
                       punks and jerks. That is where your attitude comes
                       from. Originally the term hacker was not a derogatory
                       thing. Somewhere in the late 80’s or early 90’s, the
                       ethic changed. It was hyped and commercialized by the
                       movies War Games, Hackers, and Sneakers. 5 million kids
                       logged on to aol as zer0k00l the day after seeing
                       Hackers.
                       Those kids are now in groups like the Phone Losers.
                       It’s a fantasy now. And it’s not even a nice fantasy.
                       It’s a bad dream. It’s Natural Born Killers in digital
                       form. It’s fear and pain and everything negative. It’s
                       pushing an old lady down the stairs, just for something
                       to do, and laughing as she suffers. It doesn’t
                       accomplish a thing. It’s humanity taking one large step
                       backwards. You don’t have to be an asshole to be a
                       phreak. You are infinitely more interesting if you
                       communicate without making people want to kill you.
    
            [31373 unplugs the burrowing rodents from her ass and lets loose.]                   
    
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                       Posted by: There you go again
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       You really ARE obsessed with movies, aren’t you?
    
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                       Posted by: research the pla
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       31373 is so obsessed with knowing everything she can
                       about the PLA and the only way to do so is to research
                       movies and articles related to the only things she
                       thinks she knows about the PLA, namely HACKING. She
    
                       went down to her local Blockbuster or the Canadian
                       equivlant and did a search for movies that pertain to
                       hacking, and these are the three that came up first on
                       the list. I would not be surprised if she took notes
                       while she watched them. Possibly even purchased them to
                       watch again and again.
    
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                       Posted by: Jimbo
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       She’s trying to get inside the head of the PLA… How
                       spooky. Hrm, didn’t 31373 say (and I quote), “No more
                       garbage posts by 31373. It served it’s purpose. There
                       will be 1 more post from me, and then nobody will see
                       my posts here again.”
    
                       Yet if I’m not mistaken, she just posted a reply up
                       there. So was that 31373’s last post? And where is this
                       action she’s speaking of? And lastly, PLA is not a
                       group & never has been. There were a few idiots in
                       Colorado at one time who considered themselves the “PLA
                       Club” and rode their tricycles around in the streets
                       with PLA stickers on them but PLA has never been any
                       kind of organization.
    
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                       FOR 31373
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                       Posted by: uP
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       Man With The Dogs
    
                       I am no one
                       But I am well known
                       For I am the Man With the Dogs
    
                       I stare at you shopping
                       Watch while you’re walking
                       Two dogs run around your toes
                       You turn around
                       Two eyes break you down
                       ‘Now who does that guy think he’s starin’ at?’
                       Stop in your tracks
                       You’re being laughed at
                       Your armored ego is nude
                       And I do and I do
    
                       Crack up ‘cos I’m getting to you
                       I see you I see you
                       And you’re pretty self-conscious too
    
                       Down to yourchurch
                       I’m looking for victims
                       Spell of the Man With the Dogs
                       I’ll haunt you
                       And follow you to work
                       That ghost is back again
                       Creep into you
                       I won’t go away
                       You’re taking yourself too seriously
                       I smile as you frown
                       And turn to walk away
                       Your habits for all to see
                       I see a shrew
                       I see you
                       And the rodent things you do
                       You see you I see you
                       And you’re pretty self-conscious too
    
                       And I’m gonna crack your mask
                       Yeah, and I’m gonna laugh
                       Open wide…
    
                       Saw you again
                       You’ll see me tomorrow
                       Curse of the Man With the Dogs
                       You may not like me
                       You won’t forget me
                       Not safe even in Walgreen’s (or whatever you call it in
                       Canada)
    
                       They’ve seen me
                       Ask your friends
                       ‘Oh I know him’
                       Seen but I’m never heard
                       By your lot
                       A stare is worth a thousand biting phrases
                       See how stupid you are?
    
                       I dare you I dare you
                       To erase my laser tattoo
                       You see you you see you
                       And you’re pretty self-conscious too
                       And I’m gonna crack your mask
                       Yeah, and I’m gonna laugh
                       What’s inside?
                       Is it pubic hair?
                       Is it cobweb air?
                       I bet you just don’t care…
    
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                       Posted by: To the man with the dogs
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       I noticed that your dogs looked thirsty.Please be sure
                       to give them enough water especially in hot weather
                       like this because black dogs absorb heat and need even
                       more water than you might think
    
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                       Posted by: uP
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       Thanks for your concern, but my dogs only hydrate
                       themselves by licking up my spittle from the sidewalk.
                       They’ve been doing this for years, and although they
                       pant a lot, they’re doing just fine.
    
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                       My house burned down last night and I think the PLA are
                       involved
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                       Posted by: Homeless
                       E-mail: mail@helpscott.com
                       Location: The Slums
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       I’m going to be collecting the insurance, but I heard
                       the PLA has a ton of money stashed in Swiss bank
                       accounts. Do you think I should sue them? Can I get in
                       on anyone elses lawsuit vs. them?
    
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                       Posted by: HOLY FRIJOLE!
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       Did your house really burn to the ground taking all
                       your worldly possessions with it? Good job, PLA!
    
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                       Posted by: Hope
                       E-mail: you
                       Location: saved
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       your glove.
    
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                       Posted by: to homeless
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       since you are homeless now, how are you going to
                       homeschool mason? how are you going to take in all
                       those poor foster children? oh dear…big problem.
    
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                       Posted by: DIDDLE
                       E-mail:
                       Location: RALEIGH
                       Posted on: Friday August 15, 1997
    
                       WHO IN THE HECK IS PLA?
    
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                   RBCP=Bill Cook of Albany, Oregon
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                   Posted by: 31373
                   E-mail: HAHAHAHAHA
                   Location: YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   Hot on the trail of RBCP for the 7th day I have found out who
                   this loser of the week really is and he sure is a great catch.
                   He goes by RBCP or [NOTE--this person pays very close attention to
                   detail, wouldn't you say?] redhotchilipepper and is the founder of the
                   PLA or Phone Losers of America but his real name is Bill Cook.
                   He lives in Albany Oregon with his beloved Colleen and
                   daughter Emily.
    
                   In 1993 he was arrested for stealing over $4,000 in cash from
                   a 7-11 in Wood River, Illinois. A warrant was issued for his
                   arrest but he was never located. He has lived in Texas,
                   Illinois, Indiana and Oregon.
    
                   Willie wonkers I sure hope the FBI doesn’t land on this boy’s
                   doorstep. Better pack them bags again boy.
    
                   Now is this good enough for you RBCP?
    
            [We're not sure if this post was actually 31373 or just someone
             being silly. Either way, RBCP never used the name Bill Cook and
             is currently living in Ohio.]
    
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                   Posted by: mr. X
                   E-mail:
                   Location:
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   Actually, darlings, $4,000 is quite a take from a 7-11, and
                   he’s been living on that ever since, which means he’s
                   thrifty, too.
    
           [I actually know that this one IS 31373, as this was the 'hat' (oh
            please forgive me for using that word) she was using at the time
            that she claimed she'd never post here again]
    
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                   Posted by: Jay
                   E-mail:
                   Location: Fla
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   Hi Mr X:
    
                   Yes, that’s a lot of slim jims and slushies, isn’t it?
    
                   What is your cat’s name?
                   I used to have several, but none now.
                   My kids do, however.
    
                   Cats are great. You can go on a trip and leave food, water,
                   and a fresh cat box, and never worry, except for the
                   occasional hair ball. My kind of pet!
    
                   Did your cat ever eat Xmas tinsel? Oh, my!
                   That can be distressing to the poor dears!
                   And to your guests, too!
    
                   Real Teacher has an interesting thread up at the top, by
                   the way.
    
                   Threads are so messy today. Glad I found you.
    
                   Enjoyed the Globe article.
    
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                   Posted by: 31373
                   E-mail:
                   Location:
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   gOTCHA yoU MisERaBLE PLA LoSErs
    
                   HopE yOUR LEaDER rOTS in THaT JaIL CeLL
    
                   WAREZ RUleS!
    
                   hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    
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                   Posted by: To 31373
                   E-mail: hrm
                   Location:
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   I thought you said he lived in Ohio. Has he packed up and
                   moved since you started investigating him? And what about
                   bright.net? I checked that myself and it’s
                   definately in Ohio. I’m confused.
    
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                   Posted by: mr. X
                   E-mail:
                   Location:
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   Everyone knows they call them 7-11 because that’s the time you
                   spend in the State Pen for robbing one, from what I can see,
                   darlings, the only people those stores are convenient for is
                   stickup artists, it’s like they designed them just to be
                   robbed, agree?
    
                 [This woman sure knows what she's talking about, doens't she?]    
    
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                   Posted by: Margie
                   E-mail:
                   Location:
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   You know, I worry about the older one. There are usually only
                   4 or so in the group. And some of them are pretty young, maybe
                   11 or 12. They may be fairly normal kids, bored for the
                   summer. They’ll be ok.
    
                   But there is usually an older one, no friends his/her own age,
                   that leads the younger ones. This person really craves love
                   and respect, and is trying to find it with the young kids. At
                   the same time, becasue of the awkwardness of the teen years,
                   he/she is pushing away the parents who could give him/her the
                   needed love and security.
    
                   And sometimes even the younger ones are a little contemptuous.
                   They DO have friends their own age, afterall. They know that
                   the older one is really not all that “cool”. They drift away
                   over time.
    
                   Anyway, I love you, sweetie. I see all the awkwardness and
                   confusion and onliness. Hang on. You’ll be ok, dearie.
    
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                   Posted by: 311 7 or what ever the crunt types
                   E-mail:
                   Location: club fred
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   look bitch throw your life in the oven and things
                   will rule
    
                   cats have a way of licking your skin that feels
                   like sandpaper
    
                   a lot of blank space to feel up
    
                   the sick puppy now has control of the media
                   things are going haywire
                   I hope you are following this
    
                   it might just start following you
    
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                   Posted by: a righteous pla follower
                   E-mail: plarules@nowhere.com
                   Location: mid-west
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   Actually RB is living a casual lifestyle with colleen in new
                   mexico where they have sold their baby to buy more and more
                   phone equipment and lots of guns and ammo, and there going to
                   take over the world and stuff…
    
                   Nah really, Bill (as that # lady call him) is living in Maine
                   with some mermaid he caught while redboxing near a peer.
    
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                   Posted by: SpumCo
                   E-mail:
                   Location:
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   Hey, where’d you get THAT information?? It’s not on his page.
                   Don’t tell us you’ve been doing some actual detective work
                   here. It seems that if this RBCP really gave a shit in the
                   first place about what you’re doing, he would have removed
                   both of his pages in a panic. Instead, I see the PLA page has
                   changed it’s domain to www.phonelosers.org and that both pages
                   have been updated, not to censor information that he’s afraid
                   of putting online - but it actually looks like there’s more
                   there. Just my 2 cents.
    
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                   Posted by: Stan
                   E-mail:
                   Location:
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   RBCP is in Ohio. Celina Ohio.
    
                   That post was not 31373. It was just more RBCP and PLA hat
                   stealing. That’s what they do. Post under everone else’s
                   name and cause confusion.
    
                   By the way, I just happened to check RBCP’s web site and
                   it appears to be gone. It looks like bright.net might
                   have gotten fed up with him.
    
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                   Posted by: To Stan
                   E-mail:
                   Location:
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   rbcp has his own non-profit domain now.
    
                   I was impressed!
    
                   www.phonelosers.org
    
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                   Posted by: To Stan
                   E-mail:
                   Location:
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   rbcp’s page is still there. i just checked it. it’s at
                   www.bright.net/~bac/rbcp.htm but i can’t connect to his
                   computer. that probably just means he’s not online, though.
    
            [For ~days~ at this point, they've been extremely curious
             as to why they can't connect to RBCP's computer.  I guess
             someone told them to read his page contextually and
             notice the "this only works when I'm online" statement.]               
    
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                   Posted by: Sheesh
                   E-mail:
                   Location:
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   How many places are these PAL people on the net. They are on
                   peak.org and bright.net. They are on phonelosers.org. They are
                   on kracked.com. They sure do move alot. What is there deal?
    
                   Good luck staying on their trail.
    
          [Geez.  And that's only RBCP they're documenting!  Wouldn't
           they be amused?]
    
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                   Posted by: Stan
                   E-mail:
                   Location:
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   kracked.com gave the PLA their own domain name so as to remove
                   reference to “kracked.com” in their old address:
                   http://pla.kracked.com. Now it will be harder for anyone to
                   find out that PLA is on kracked.com, because their address is
                   www.phonelosers.org
    
                   Just a little update from the peanut gallery.
    
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                   Posted by: Opera1
                   E-mail: oper1@ill.alliance.net
                   Location: Chicago
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   Wow, I didn’t know you could find out who to contact by
                   searching internic. Could come in handy! I looked up every
                   company and outfit I can think of. This is too cool!
    
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                   Posted by: Okay Idiots
                   E-mail:
                   Location:
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   RBCP owns kracked.com
    
                   Duh!
    
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                   Posted by: Lotsa idiots out today
                   E-mail:
                   Location:
                   Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                   One of these posts is factually correct. Other than the domain
                   pullings. We knew when we came here that you would be the type
                   to obsess over us. Why do you think you were chosen? At least
                   we were right. It’s miserable to be wrong. Keep up that
                   obsession, with whatever target you choose!
    
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                       RBCP
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                       Posted by: Concerned Poster
                       E-mail: Does it Matter?
                       Location: USA
                       Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                       Ok, first off, I know RB…. he is not doing this to
                       your message board, it is the 14 year-old immature
                       children who think RB is god, and want to
                       do anything the PLA instructs or thinks is cool
    
                       If you guys would lay off RB, this would end…
    
                       I am sure of this, if you just keep stirring up
                       things on RB then your forum will never return to
                       normal…
    
                       p.s. his name is NOT bill
    
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                       Posted by: missing poster that shows your face
                       E-mail: time of death—hard to pinpoint
                       Location: when in doubt shoot
                       Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                       no one is following anyone we are all loose in
                       this world
    
                       this is one big laugh riot with out the free tv’s
    
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                       Posted by: Turnabout IS fair play
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                       Awhile back I found several photos on Various PLA
                       sites.
                       1. Bell wall damaging photo.
                       2. President and client photo.
    
                       I printed these out and took them to Alton, East Alton
                       and Wood River. I know who this is.
                       And he is just a big ZeRo! Now with the info I have I’m
                       thinking about doing a PLAterror site.
    
            [Haha, we assume this is referring to the picture of RBCP standing
             next to a Southwestern Bell building, flipping on the camera. A
             guy in Corpus put the picture in Photoshop and made it look as if
             his finger was denting the brick wall of the building. Major
             damage there. ]
    
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                       War Tally is on Tripod
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                       Posted by: Forum Friend
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                       Can you believe Tripod is the one sponsoring the War
                       Tally page? I think this PLA has connections there.
    
             [Of course the PLA has connections at Tripod.  It's called
              THE INTERNET.  Sheesh]
    
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                       Posted by: ???
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                       What is war tally?
    
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                       Posted by: Undercover Hat
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                       War Tally is another page made by the ‘dead’ group and
                       the PLA. They don’t realize that this page cements the
                       lawsuit I have in place.
    
                       LOL
    
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                       Posted by: smichelle
                       E-mail: smichelles@hotmail.com
                       Location: Land of the Lost
                       Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                       Fuck off jameson, I am sick and tired of you using that
                       Undercover Hat to slander the others.
    
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                       Posted by: LOL
                       E-mail:
                       Location:
                       Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                       Jams is not Undercover Hat.
    
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                       Posted by: mystery
                       E-mail: .
                       Location: .
                       Posted on: Saturday August 16, 1997
    
                       Why does anybody care? I have checked the page and
                       think it is funny. There is a small talent there. No
                       imagination but wwriting